Jul 12, 2005, 09:01 PM // 21:01
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#21
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"I love reading trash!"
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Home Again
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
- If you get too much TLC from the mobs, don't run away from me. Run around me until I can catch their attention.
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Bless You!
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Jul 12, 2005, 09:17 PM // 21:17
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#22
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Port Orchard, WA
Guild: The Second Foundation: [TSF]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
Excellent stuff, but you forgot some...
Warrior Gripes: - You're support. It's my job to keep the mobs off you, but it is your job to keep me alive!
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THis so soooooo not valid, do all warriors THINK this way? We're all supposed to bow down to your mighty armor and thundering hammer as you lay waste to entire armies of Minotaurs? Toss a healing spell your way once in a while, mend your ailments, and remove blindness so you can smash the enemy into pancakes?
Here's a newsflash, Tom Brokaw. The "support" label you're assigning to the rest of the party is so out of whack it's not even funny. The ones killing those masses of Minotaurs? The elementalist. Not you. The "squishies" as you refer to are the ones dishing out the real damage.
The warrior is the true support role. Your "job" is to run up, gather as many monsters as you can to beat up on you, and stand there and take a pounding while the true death comes from above in the form of nice round meteors and firey raindrops. You're nothing more than a cattle herder with a big stick.
This was typed out relatively tongue in cheek, but it's basically the truth.
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Jul 12, 2005, 09:23 PM // 21:23
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#23
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Apr 2005
Profession: Mo/N
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Wow, you have some issues to work out man... He never even said warriors were doing the damage, he just said warriors were to keep the monsters off of everyone else
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Jul 12, 2005, 09:27 PM // 21:27
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#24
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Port Orchard, WA
Guild: The Second Foundation: [TSF]
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Originally Posted by Acan Vishnu
Wow, you have some issues to work out man... He never even said warriors were doing the damage, he just said warriors were to keep the monsters off of everyone else
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I guess the term "Tongue in Cheek" is too subtle of an expression that you failed to grasp it's meaning?
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Jul 12, 2005, 09:42 PM // 21:42
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#25
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Calgary AB.
Guild: Wanta Fanta [WTF] mo/mes, war/el, nec/ra
Profession: E/N
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Elementalist Gripes:
Moving the mob out of my Firestorm - Thanks, 6/8 of them were almost dead anyway. Im sure you can finnish the job.
Monk getting getting pounded and running around like chicken w/ no head.- Hey, see that falling firey hell of death up there. Lead the scary monster in that while your being useless.
Mesmers - I made a war/el just so you leave me alone and let me cast in peace.
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Jul 12, 2005, 10:32 PM // 22:32
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#27
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Academy Page
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OH GOD
N/W ... ive seen enough, please stop with the goddamn N/W's with swords and shields
I also hate grouping with people who use pets, they always think that they are being useful. but most of the time they arent.. im a monk and i dont even bother healing those armorless bastages
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Jul 12, 2005, 11:26 PM // 23:26
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#28
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: May 2005
Location: In front of my PC
Guild: Kai
Profession: E/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Fat Duck
OH GOD
N/W ... ive seen enough, please stop with the goddamn N/W's with swords and shields
I also hate grouping with people who use pets, they always think that they are being useful. but most of the time they arent.. im a monk and i dont even bother healing those armorless bastages
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Sorry but pets ARE usefull. I don't ask anyone to heal or rez my pet I can look after him just fine, like he looks after me and stops those hydras eating me for lunch.
I do agree with the N/W though had 2 in the fissure a couple of days ago sigh Completly useless just as well the other 6 of us where good enough to get though a good 5 or 6 missions before we quit due it being about 5am.
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Jul 13, 2005, 12:03 AM // 00:03
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#29
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: The Great Southwest
Guild: Shadowstorm Mercenaries
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimi Miyagi
The warrior is the true support role. Your "job" is to run up, gather as many monsters as you can to beat up on you, and stand there and take a pounding while the true death comes from above in the form of nice round meteors and firey raindrops. You're nothing more than a cattle herder with a big stick.
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This is the best summary of a warrior's role that I've heard. Warrior's are not primary damage dealers. Their job is to keep the primary damage dealers alive. Their job is to draw and HOLD aggro on themselves, and keep the mobs off the casters. If more warriors understood this, there would be far fewer complaints about warriors.
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Jul 13, 2005, 12:12 AM // 00:12
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#30
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Academy Page
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I'm sick of people complaining about warriors in the way the above people are. Warriors are NOT always tanks. In PvE, which is something in this game NO ONE SHOULD CARE ABOUT, fine, the warrior's goal should be to take the hits. But wait, whats this 'no one should care about' bit for PvE? O right, because the focus of this game is PvP. But wait? PvP is different?!?! The other team is going to attack the monks and spellcasters first no matter what the warriors do? Well gosh.
Warriors are meant to be damage dealers. This is the main reason why W/Mo tends to be such a crappy build outside of the useless PvE in this game. What good is the ability to heal yourself if no one is attacking you in the first place? Its a rhetorical question. Warriors are meant to be doing heavy damage/snaring to monks and later spellcasters. I've not once seen this be a problem in PvE where the whole team is of reasonable quality. In doing damage warriors tank naturally, thats just how it goes. If you have troubles with the warriors around you its because a) they have 4 superior runes and crappy armor (ie: a terrible build, poor noob), or b) the team (and if this happens alot, remember the constant is YOU) sucks, and needs to learn how to adapt to the 'unexpected' ('o noes! im taking damage! why is this happening?!?!').
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Jul 13, 2005, 12:16 AM // 00:16
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#31
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Academy Page
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleazy_D
[*]Racial slurs in chat - BTW, 'Jew' is not a race, nor an insult, nor my heritage
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Erm, I'm just being nitpicky, but 'Jew' (Israelite to be proper i suppose) is a race. Not every person of the jewish faith is of the jewish race, of course, BUT that of course doesn't mean the race doesn't exist (which it of course does). Also saying 'that isn't an insult' is goofy, as to any one person it could be considered an insult (for example if you're firmly against judeo-christianity, or if you're an athiest who takes offense to that sort of thing for whatever reason). Once again, i'm just being nitpicky, but come on...
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Jul 13, 2005, 12:26 AM // 00:26
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#32
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Canberra, AU
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Jew is a race (although not really called Jew), Jewish is a person who is of Isrealic origin or Judaism religion.
Isrealite who follows Judaism: "I am a Jew and I am Jewish"
Any other nationality/ethnic background: "I am not a Jew, but I am Jewish"
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Jul 13, 2005, 04:59 AM // 04:59
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#33
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Port Orchard, WA
Guild: The Second Foundation: [TSF]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aracos79
This is the best summary of a warrior's role that I've heard. Warrior's are not primary damage dealers. Their job is to keep the primary damage dealers alive. Their job is to draw and HOLD aggro on themselves, and keep the mobs off the casters. If more warriors understood this, there would be far fewer complaints about warriors.
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Thanks. I'm surprised not more people understand and accept that fact. I've stood within the middle of a dozen minotaurs with a healing seed, and just kept them there while the elementalists pounded away with firestorm and meteor. That's my job.
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Jul 13, 2005, 05:42 AM // 05:42
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#34
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?
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i have a few.. im suprized they havent been said yet.. well... some of them may have but they are so good you have to hear them again.. or not
1) Im ready for the mission and i dont care if no one else is because i roxors the big!!11!- Seriously, if i had a dollar for everytime a ele or monk left because the party leader never asked "you guys ready" bill gates would be trying to rob me right now... wait for everyone to get their spells ready
2) OMG why did that guy just stand there for 30 seconds a leave- Ever hear of lag and drop? not everyone is a monk who leaves when they please.. which brings up the next point
3) Im a monk, i hear the word of god, do as i say or be doomed!- ok on the last mission the monk would not heal some guy because he asked him to stop tanking so much
4) Monk tatoos... wash your loin cloth lately? (sorry i just cant stand seeing half the monks in nothing but towels)
5) Im attacking Jade armor.. Im attacking Jade bow.. Im attacking so many targets at once that this is total pointless.. one person calls, not 5, and when that one person calls, they attack one target.. not 5.. (im not just making this up, its happend and they blame my poor W/N because i start attacking the guy they called 3 targets ago) this is also kinda with target switching.. in the last missions i cant count the amount of times all us warriors were attacking somethign and they call a diffrent target so they all switch even if this target was at 1/4 health.. pick a target and stick to it
6) "naked" ele dancers... enjoy it while you can, its the last time your ever going to see that kind of action
7) OMG do your job... STFU necros suck.. no you suck at healing, well you fail at life.. *Player 2 has left* *Player 3 has left* *any remaing party memebers have left*... can't we all just get along?
And finaly my personal favourite
8) Gwen bashing.. common.. what did she do to you? this curious little girl saved my but more times than i can count the other day
sorry if any of these have been said before, i know some of them may sound like others but i didnt mean them to..
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Jul 13, 2005, 06:32 AM // 06:32
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#35
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2005
Location: germany
Guild: Guild Of Openhearted Deeds
Profession: R/Mo
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I think you're right on most points, but not on all of them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleazy_D
People pinging more than, say, 6 times on the minimap
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Depending on your team, somtimes you have to give'em a good ping to make them understand that they're heading off into the wrong direction.
Some teams behave like lemmings.
One idiot, being bored with the game, looking for action just walks into the next group of enemies.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleazy_D
Being the first target in PvP - Come get me! I'm feeling lonely, and I want to meet new people.
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You don't expect your opponents to play nice and loose just because you have a hard time being attackt as soon as battle starts?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleazy_D
[*]Monks that can't keep up - Hey, the front of the line is over here. Get to work!
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I love it when you, as a healer, give energy warnings, telling people that you can't heal them with only 0-4 energy left, and they have nothing better to do, but rush into a group of azure shadows or whatever.
And when they die they blame you for not doing your job.
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Jul 13, 2005, 06:49 AM // 06:49
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#36
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2005
Location: germany
Guild: Guild Of Openhearted Deeds
Profession: R/Mo
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Originally Posted by Algren Cole
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Sometimes it's just fun to actually do that.
Yesterday a Lvl14 Warrior approached in Ventari's Refuge and seriously asked about how the storage worked, and what it was good for.
He continued asking how far the end of the game would be from this point on.
I just couldn't resist telling him, that pressing F12 would bring him very close to the end.
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Jul 13, 2005, 06:59 AM // 06:59
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#37
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2005
Location: germany
Guild: Guild Of Openhearted Deeds
Profession: R/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike
Sorry but pets ARE usefull. I don't ask anyone to heal or rez my pet I can look after him just fine, like he looks after me and stops those hydras eating me for lunch.
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I agree. Pets are most usefull, unless you don't know how to control them.
I thought pets can only be rezed by their owner?
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Jul 13, 2005, 07:21 AM // 07:21
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#38
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Swizzelstick
Profession: E/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aracos79
This is the best summary of a warrior's role that I've heard. Warrior's are not primary damage dealers. Their job is to keep the primary damage dealers alive. Their job is to draw and HOLD aggro on themselves, and keep the mobs off the casters. If more warriors understood this, there would be far fewer complaints about warriors.
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I completely agree with you, and my primary is a warrior. OH! beware the mighty 15 damage i deal every second! To 1 enemy. The only things i'm great at killing are the squishies.
Too bad the squishies never seem to get the fact that i should be about 50 feet a head of them so i can aggro the baddies, not the elementalist that tries to draw with his fire wand....
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Jul 13, 2005, 09:24 AM // 09:24
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#39
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Wilds Pathfinder
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General Gripe in Towns
People who think their trade offers are so interesting and important that they just have to post them in Local Channel to make sure that we all can see them. When we switched off our Trade Channel because we...um... don't ever trade, we were obviously not thinking.
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Jul 13, 2005, 10:17 AM // 10:17
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#40
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Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh
Join Date: May 2005
Location: The Netherlands
Guild: The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Digitalblast
Elementalist Gripes:
Mesmers - I made a war/el just so you leave me alone and let me cast in peace.
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0.o
speechless. hope he was joking.
as for the click alt F4: i've been in a random team where one of my teammates fell for it. i was laughing about it, knowing we would get probably pounded 3 vs 4 when the gate went up.
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